tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post5228587363298980460..comments2024-02-06T08:43:35.333+01:00Comments on Sea Legs Girl: Ugen derpå and continuous experimentation in physiology sea legs girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-59313233404914805062014-11-01T17:16:23.817+01:002014-11-01T17:16:23.817+01:00Thanks for the follow-up on that, Dan! That can on...Thanks for the follow-up on that, Dan! That can only mean good things about your immune system and that you didn't go over the edge in those races. Or maybe, like you said, it was just a virus after Fyr til Fyr! <br /><br />I never eat on my long training runs!! I actually very rarely have long training runs and only eat during races. The last time I did a 4+ hour run on my own was in Lake Tahoe and I ate a big bag of nuts at the half-way point :-).sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-68904878715050429042014-11-01T16:31:48.912+01:002014-11-01T16:31:48.912+01:00Hi Tracy,
Just wanted to follow up on my last com...Hi Tracy,<br /><br />Just wanted to follow up on my last comment, about the fever experienced after the race, as you asked me to ;).<br /><br />I've had quite a busy late summer, first running with Moses in Tyrol (4 days, avg. 25k/day), then 3 weeks final taper/training for TDS (120k, +7250, 28.22 hrs), and then 6 weeks training/tapering for Ultima Frontera 50m (12.22, really warm... 31 deg).<br /><br />Even though the races were relatively close together, and I got really fast back to training after TDS (60, 110, 110, 110 weeks first 4 weeks), I did NOT experience any fever or sickness whatsoever. The quick return to training after TDS did come with some extreme exhaustion (waking up in the middle of night, craving simple sugars), but that's it!<br /><br />I guess we can conclude that it was a virus, or maybe the cooler weather in april :)<br /><br />Oh... and just a quick question, regarding your last post, what kind of nutrition do you actually use on long training runs (20k+), I often use gels (ev. 5-7k dependent on distance), I I kind of got the impression you only use such things in races :)<br /><br />Happy trails! - Dandanmajgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04289006678466995409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-70809600801073546462014-04-16T22:14:42.885+02:002014-04-16T22:14:42.885+02:00Dan, how strange you also had a fever. Now I wonde...Dan, how strange you also had a fever. Now I wonder if it actually was a virus and we both just got it. In any case, if you develop fevers after your next ultra/s (or don't), let me know and also measure your temp if you think of it and note how many days after the ultra it is. Could be fun to just start an informal study after a race where everyone has to report whether or not they get a fever, after how many days and how high it is. Thanks for commenting! I'm looking forward to Gendarmstien, too!sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-43506261915197682352014-04-16T21:03:20.597+02:002014-04-16T21:03:20.597+02:00Hi, Dan here :)
Thanks again for a great weekend,...Hi, Dan here :)<br /><br />Thanks again for a great weekend, nice to hear that you are feeling well again after your fever.<br /><br />I also experienced a fever from wednesday till saturday, with general tiredness and a running nose...<br /><br />I find it odd that these things come after a few days, maybe due to the post adrenaline, but would like to know a bit more, at least to how I should manage it in the days after, and when I should return to training, so if you have any useful links, please don't hesitate to fb me ;)<br /><br />And if you plan to start a study, I hereby volunteer as a test subject, lots of 50m's coming up this year ;)<br /><br />Oh, and do you remember me mentioning me talking about my sugar rush after eating apples? - Only happens with the red ones... strange...<br /><br />Looking forward to "race" you and talk at the next race :p<br /><br />Dandanmajgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04289006678466995409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-42882069177005899822014-04-16T21:00:28.193+02:002014-04-16T21:00:28.193+02:00Julie,
Great question about the two types of passi...Julie,<br />Great question about the two types of passing out (syncope). They did FEEL the same, but they were most certainly NOT due to the same mechanism. This is a subject I have quite a bit of interest in. Here is my understanding.<br />1. Passing out af the Superior 50 mile run was due to the muscles in my calves being inordinately fatigued and losing their ability to pump blood through the veins back up to my heart, thus my brain got too little blood and I felt like I was going to throw up and almost lost consciousness. This is called exercise-associated postural hypotension and is the most common cause of syncope after ultras. Being dehydrated doesn’t help, but it is not the cause.<br />2. The passing out at yoga, which had never happened to me before and Bikram is pretty much always the same – always at 40C, always the same postures, was in my understanding due the high fat and high protein meal shifting fluid out fra intravascular (in the veins) to the gut to help digest this meal, which happens to require a lot of water. Add to that sweating for 1½ hours plus perhaps a very small element of the above and getting up quickly, I was down. <br /><br />In other words, same feeling, different mechanisms. (btw a guy on the computer just walked by me and started rubbing my fingers on the keyboard and then walked away. Danish Ash Wednesday tradition?<br /><br />Jen, I remember you saying you liked using the alter-G in your rehab and that was part of the reason I was so excited we were getting one. The PM&R department at UC Davis seemed to really like theirs, too. It is a great idea for all kinds of injuries. Glad you are liking your change in diet. A lot of times people ask me about my diet like “Don’t you ever want to have any fun?” Well, yes, there is nothing more fun than a good experiment :). But more importantly, once you feel this great you just don’t want to go back! Kind of crazy all the thing that have worked their way into the human diet that really shouldn't be there and what a difference it makes when you avoid them.<br />sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-68899801426529853832014-04-16T16:21:57.541+02:002014-04-16T16:21:57.541+02:00Interesting on the diet, I have been doing similar...Interesting on the diet, I have been doing similar over the past year (although not as rigorous) and have gained more muscle, fatigue less during workouts, recover quicker. Now if I didn't have a nagging hip and nasty winter training who knows how good I'd run!<br />Love the AlterG I ran on it last summer as I recovered from my injury and it was great for allowing speed work when outside I could only run easy.Coach Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110749177657676900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-74456847504880662362014-04-16T15:57:56.560+02:002014-04-16T15:57:56.560+02:00How fun to be experimenting with Vitargo. I'm ...How fun to be experimenting with Vitargo. I'm anxious to see how you respond to the product. <br /><br />Running with the fast kids-what a blast, enjoy!!<br /><br />The passing out at yoga-this was different from the passing out at Superior 50 or did it feel the same? Just curious.<br /><br />Julie Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335126348681711755noreply@blogger.com