tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post5356835942273357544..comments2024-02-06T08:43:35.333+01:00Comments on Sea Legs Girl: Bandera 100km: What should I have done differently?sea legs girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-46791641487260662412013-01-29T22:33:00.513+01:002013-01-29T22:33:00.513+01:00What a post! Sorry, that I haven't read it tho...What a post! Sorry, that I haven't read it thoroughly earlier. You are the experienced one of the two of us but when it comes to socks I swear to injinji toe sock :) Wear them even when not running .. hmm .. that goes for my nb minimus too, best shoe I've ever worn, glad to see you like them as well. I have however thought about trying the nb mt110 which is build on the same last.<br /><br />I think it is great when someone shares the battles they fight and this post really made me feel I was there with you (still hope that we some day will run the same race).<br /><br />The mental battle you describe is a hard one to win, once doubt enters everything starts to feel twice as hard. I wonder why you laid down and took a nap .. this is the first time (to my recollection) that I heard you have done that.<br /><br />You entitled the post with a question: 'What should you have done differently' .. I think the answer is everything and nothing. Any other day the shoes might not have been a problem, just like the socks, the food and every thing else that felt wrong that day. One thing that strong runners like you and weak runners like me have a in common is that we can have 'bad days' and that is OK! So what if you didn't this race .. that day wasn't your day and just as you mentioned Cullen made the right decision so did you.<br /><br />Happy Trails,<br />Daniel DitlevDDitlevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09565685312195626494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-88628338034242565362013-01-22T22:27:59.065+01:002013-01-22T22:27:59.065+01:00I've hidden behind bushes on two different oca...I've hidden behind bushes on two different ocassions while running. Once 'cause I was in a closed park and I didn't want to get hassled by the cops. Once because I was about to get lapped by my running buddies on an out-and-back course and I was super paranoid about not letting them know how far behind I was. So I hid behind a bush until they went by then dashed after them. I couldn't keep up though so they found out how slow I was anyway.<br /><br />I'm surprised no one else has stories of paranoid-ly hiding in the woods! Or is that not normal?mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01805606458771927423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-60987575702881396942013-01-18T22:59:34.957+01:002013-01-18T22:59:34.957+01:00Anon- I am not really sure what you are asking. My...Anon- I am not really sure what you are asking. My coach's advice for running a 100km did not have anything to do with a 5k race. It was my idea to run that race and he was okay with it. He only started coaching me mid November and since I have been too injured to run long runs, up until a few weeks ago, it is really hard to blame him. I would have kept going had I not had to walk the last 20 miles on a painful hip. Seemed like a counterproductive thing to do at mile 42. For me it is far from about getting on the podium. It is about running the best race I can and not ruining the rest of my season if I feel I am injured.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-52354241061772719152013-01-18T21:52:38.573+01:002013-01-18T21:52:38.573+01:00SLG. The writing was on the wall for this one. C...SLG. The writing was on the wall for this one. Curious what advice your coach gave you for running Bandera a month out. If it had anything to do with a 5k PR, I'd drop him NOW! Just something to think about... a 10 minute mile would have gotten you on the podium. You just need to be able to run that for 62 miles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-86935148505146142682013-01-18T00:53:16.756+01:002013-01-18T00:53:16.756+01:00Pancake. The rocky, dry parts were my favorite. It...Pancake. The rocky, dry parts were my favorite. It was the deep mud that was a killer! Maybe I'll see you next year?sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-86172406463871934532013-01-18T00:51:04.674+01:002013-01-18T00:51:04.674+01:00Jason! How cool to hear from you. Yep, the tape wo...Jason! How cool to hear from you. Yep, the tape worked like a charm. I actually didn't think it would - but thank you!sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-28582319154910205092013-01-18T00:46:43.087+01:002013-01-18T00:46:43.087+01:00Olga- great idea with the nuun or something simila...Olga- great idea with the nuun or something similar. I'd totally redo my hydration strategy if I come back net year.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-37179454610928272802013-01-18T00:43:49.020+01:002013-01-18T00:43:49.020+01:00Jill, the mud was a bummer. I have a renewed respe...Jill, the mud was a bummer. I have a renewed respect for the mental fortitude it takes to finish a 100k or longer! I agree that looking back I would have also loved to finish in 13 hours. <br />sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-52317434306978702952013-01-17T19:25:57.733+01:002013-01-17T19:25:57.733+01:00I have run Bandera 3 times, once at each distance,...I have run Bandera 3 times, once at each distance, and for any of them I think it really helps to train on that kind of terrain. It's a very unique trail...much rockier than most. I do think people underestimate how tough that trail is....people just don't think Texas could have anything so hilly and rocky. You'll do fine next year...just find lots of rocks to train on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-76511355395319638102013-01-17T03:48:12.285+01:002013-01-17T03:48:12.285+01:00Your spirit was with you in Bandera. It is a very ...Your spirit was with you in Bandera. It is a very difficult course and the rain made things that muchmore challenging. I can promise that you are not the first one to make mistakes in preparation for a race in the Hill Country.<br /><br />Was curious to know if the tape actually stayed in place or came off after a few miles? (it wasn't the best tape in the world)...<br /><br />the race physician (assistant) ;)Jason Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705584431792249447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-2529648971307383872013-01-17T00:13:09.321+01:002013-01-17T00:13:09.321+01:00No for WS this year, yes for Bandera next - always...No for WS this year, yes for Bandera next - always, while I live here:)<br />If you can't take salt pills, can you think of potato chips? NUUN and other FIZZ stuff dissolving in your water bottle? Glad you're into cross-training and supplemental training!<br />And to Jill, I do believe you can be in best shape (for you, or rather each individual) for a 5k and 100k.Olgahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493291972954387932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-1607610645597538362013-01-16T23:49:44.957+01:002013-01-16T23:49:44.957+01:00Didn't see mention in your race report of the ...Didn't see mention in your race report of the difficulties of mud. I would think that would factor in. <br /><br />I certainly can't provide the depth of insight into race mechanics that others have here, but isn't it pretty much impossible to be in top shape for both 5K and 100K distances? I say this as someone who hasn't seen much of my own personal "top end" for years, because I've leaned so heavily in the direction of long-distance endurance. It's likely going to get even more skewed for me this year, as my interests are taking me in the direction of multi-day races/challenges.<br /><br />However, I'd love to run a 100K in 13 hours. :P<br /><br />Good luck reaching your goals this year. Jill Homerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02983065990450931943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-30384516288964077742013-01-16T23:11:02.495+01:002013-01-16T23:11:02.495+01:00Danni- my ego always works against me. My best rac...Danni- my ego always works against me. My best races happen when I let go. I know that and I try. But in all honesty, I just was not mentally prepared to be OUT there for SO many hours. I overestimated what I could do- especially given my injury.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-38686796166718085722013-01-16T23:09:25.568+01:002013-01-16T23:09:25.568+01:00Olga - that advice is worth hundreds of dollars or...Olga - that advice is worth hundreds of dollars or more. I hope you know that. Makes perfect sense to me - everything you said. I honestly don't think the humidity made that much of a difference, though. I'm used to it in the Midwest summers and Denmark is really humid pretty much all the time. Maybe more salt would have helped, but my stomach just rejects that stuff, ever since I stopped taking the PPI medication. I actually do regularly do squats and lift weights and have gained quite a bit of strength do to both. I don't blog about it too much, but I do have an intense cross training routine. I would love to be stronger, but feel like my whole life I have always had a scrawny body - even when I was a little overweight. It just seems to be my build. I do often ponder how much can be changed. I would love to see you again soon. Will you be at WS this year cheering? Or maybe Bandera next year :o).sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-78345245777164339922013-01-16T23:03:41.192+01:002013-01-16T23:03:41.192+01:00OMG Steve- just ask Alicia how weirded out I was b...OMG Steve- just ask Alicia how weirded out I was by the placement of that woman's-style strap. Turned out it was really comfortable, though, so looking like a fool was an acceptable sacrifice. sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-8934500166751952562013-01-16T20:08:56.470+01:002013-01-16T20:08:56.470+01:00Sounds like you need to work on your pre-race and ...Sounds like you need to work on your pre-race and race-day nutrition plan and perhaps your ego. And it sounds like either you were/are injured or imagining problems to give yourself an excuse to stop. Perhaps also you were wrong to assume you'd do awesome given the different trail conditions and weather conditions from what you're accustomed to? Sorry you had a bad race. Dannihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02201053516148787578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-65355349944788753942013-01-16T19:03:25.366+01:002013-01-16T19:03:25.366+01:00Humidity is really horrible when you don't kno...Humidity is really horrible when you don't know how to run in it. And in my personal opinion (with which I know of a handful local ultrarunners and athlete nutritionists agree) taking MORE than 1 salt tab would have made things better. But I do hate HEED for sure, never drink it - this is what makes me nauseated and puke-y. Cotton socks, huh...you just never ran long enough in bad conditions before, now you know. Sorry about the shoes, but whatever anybody recommends (myself including), please try before on a long run! Food - I never, ever eat any more (and try to not any different) than on any other regular night before the run. The shock you send your digestive system into with all that stuff getting processed and allocated...why mess up with a good thing? Do you eat before any of your 26 mile training runs like that? Then don't piss away the race! I can't help you with your mental game - you are a basket set when it comes to being competitive. But I can tell you that you are thin, and as you posted Michele's photo, she is strong. Thin gives nice flat fast marathons. Strong gives solid performances over 50M+ rocks and hills and mud. Even Melanie is not a skinny girl (by elite marathon standards, skinny in life, yes). So, get stronger. Some squats to build some leg would do you good once you're done with marathon training. Some upper body would help to keep you upright too. I actually hope one day you get to finish a long race where everything sucks from start go - it will give you a lot of power and lessons for the future:) Come back next year! Congrats to SR for running his own race - and not tagging behind Timmy in the first 6 miles (which would have been his last fast 6 then, like JB's). And please, when you train with certain nutrition plan, bring it with you and don't hop on what race offers - often it's crap, since RD's get cheap deals and need to go with it. Rant is over. Nice to see your smile!Olgahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493291972954387932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-57441185393902121672013-01-16T17:15:23.582+01:002013-01-16T17:15:23.582+01:00Odd photos - you're the only person I've s...Odd photos - you're the only person I've seen use a hydration pack strap as a bra underwire.SteveQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943650844671498074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-24819146543889715672013-01-16T16:41:19.464+01:002013-01-16T16:41:19.464+01:00Fortunately I have an easier, failsafe plan to sab...Fortunately I have an easier, failsafe plan to sabotage your race should I ever need it--if we're racing against each other at Bandera next year, I'll make sure Divesh speeds around the park and tells the police officers all about how he's crewing for Tracy:)Alicia Hudelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920162593427542080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-48342103619891197952013-01-16T07:42:29.297+01:002013-01-16T07:42:29.297+01:00This blog is so so informative and attractive.Than...This blog is so so informative and attractive.Thanks to post great blog.orlando villashttp://firstchoicefloridavillas.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-45729124824832295102013-01-16T04:18:04.742+01:002013-01-16T04:18:04.742+01:00Karen- I agree with the "probably still overt...Karen- I agree with the "probably still overtrained" - that is definitely how I feel whether or not that is the case. sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-462154657472868142013-01-16T04:15:50.800+01:002013-01-16T04:15:50.800+01:00Alicia - what I meant to write was that you backed...Alicia - what I meant to write was that you backed into the tree on PURPOSE to sabbotage my race. Despite that, I am really glad it is improving (the whiplash).sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-23479951827355295992013-01-16T04:13:59.474+01:002013-01-16T04:13:59.474+01:00Whoah Jen- where ARE you right now?Whoah Jen- where ARE you right now?sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-53350797488632618052013-01-16T04:13:35.401+01:002013-01-16T04:13:35.401+01:00Katie, that is fine you don't want to run a 10...Katie, that is fine you don't want to run a 100k because you would probably kick my ass and then I would be so mad ;o). And it is crazy and that is the appeal!sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-79077305155198240292013-01-16T00:43:37.399+01:002013-01-16T00:43:37.399+01:00Humidity is a killer. Moving to California wrecke...Humidity is a killer. Moving to California wrecked me for the first few months, it is so dehydrating. I also think Heed (and pickles) are horrible for running with.<br /><br />Maybe you're still over-trained? The first signs I get of over-training is that my mental power disappears, makes sense that it would be the last thing to heal, right?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212228308225991239noreply@blogger.com