tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post6044318950843709049..comments2024-02-06T08:43:35.333+01:00Comments on Sea Legs Girl: Copenhagen Marathon: Oops! I messed that one up big time.sea legs girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-3758948024986304032010-05-25T23:21:47.462+02:002010-05-25T23:21:47.462+02:00((Hugs)) I know you were disappointed in a DNF, b...((Hugs)) I know you were disappointed in a DNF, but I'm glad that you did. I'd rather you stay healthy and run more so that I can read more of your running on your blog.OrangeBlossomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03108717325679994801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-3523492135556485452010-05-25T20:27:25.257+02:002010-05-25T20:27:25.257+02:00I also work with the internet and one the things I...I also work with the internet and one the things I develop is a running information portal <br /><br />Time-to-Run.com<br /><br />Justin has my email<br /><br />Keep on looking forward the past is a platform to better performancesGavinhttp://www.time-to-run.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-41335416979532411402010-05-25T13:57:29.876+02:002010-05-25T13:57:29.876+02:00Thanks to everyone who commmented. Why am I so luc...Thanks to everyone who commmented. Why am I so lucky to have so many talented, educated athletes reading and commenting on this blog? Well, I learn a lot from you guys. And, yes, May-Britt I also think I have learned a lot from the race.<br /><br />Helle, I'm sorry I called you Hellen! Just a typo.<br /><br />And Gavin, Wow. You are internet savvy. It was great meeting you, too, but how on earth did you find me on this blog? I'm (slightly) freaking out at the unlikelihood of that. But also think it's cool. I have spent the last few days with Justin and Jackie and will get your contact info from them :).sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-26994262329102059022010-05-25T04:39:17.797+02:002010-05-25T04:39:17.797+02:00Hey girl - sorry to hear it was a miserable experi...Hey girl - sorry to hear it was a miserable experience. But you were right to drop - take what you can from the race and then move on. A change of focus will be good. I've felt nerves on almost every start line but I've rarely been ill so I can't imagine how awful that is. You're training has been great and the PRs will come.<br /><br />Congrats to SR. Awesome time even if not his goal. You guys are allowed to be miserable together for just a little bit and then it's onto the next goal!Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015544399068863167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-69787626811935169032010-05-24T19:00:45.181+02:002010-05-24T19:00:45.181+02:00I have to agree with Olga, especially if nerves an...I have to agree with Olga, especially if nerves and pressure cause you to puke the entire day leading up to an event. You will never run a good marathon after puking for an entire day beforehand. And if calling a race a 'goal race' leads to anxiety and nerves, you may continue to have this problem in future 'goal races.' You started the race completely dehydrated and running a PR under those conditions is unlikely. But I think you can run a 12 minute PR. I ran a 20 minute PR at Boston, which was my 3rd marathon, which is not hard to do if you haven't run many marathons. If you've run 20 marathons, then it's a different story, but if you've only run a few, than it is likely you haven't come close to what could be your PR. I think I've got another 15 minute PR in there somewhere (I've only run 4 marathons and don't plan to do many more).<br /><br />I got into ultramarathons because I don't like to race, and used to get really nervous before races. The longer the distance, the less it seems like a race (to me). The joy (and sorrow) of ultras is that so much could happen out there that one shouldn't place too much emphasis on any single day. Doing so leads to unrealistic expectations and feelings of failure if we don't have it on race day. My best races have come on days when I didn't plan to 'race' and just went out to enjoy the experience. From your description of the race, besides being dehydrated, it doesn't sound like you were having much fun out there, and were concentrated more on staying with your pace group than enjoying the experience.amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331844957221069032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-5144696025583417242010-05-24T18:53:46.048+02:002010-05-24T18:53:46.048+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331844957221069032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-9614373502700557972010-05-24T17:58:26.361+02:002010-05-24T17:58:26.361+02:00I don't think your problem was your goal. It&...I don't think your problem was your goal. It's totally achievable, you just need the experience to be able to execute. No biggie.Dannihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02201053516148787578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-90584191239210017442010-05-24T17:18:02.611+02:002010-05-24T17:18:02.611+02:00Everyone else has covered the essential points, so...Everyone else has covered the essential points, so I'll just add what to do if you never get over the "jittery spews": drink a ton of water before the race - you'll lose a lot of it vomiting and you'll feel waterlogged at the start, but it at least makes you feel you're doing something productive and may distract you from thinking about the race itself (especially if you have to hunt out port-a-potties all morning).SteveQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943650844671498074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-54875547452911332922010-05-24T15:16:44.255+02:002010-05-24T15:16:44.255+02:00Sorry to hear it did not go as you expected... may...Sorry to hear it did not go as you expected... maybe it is my fault (together with PiccolaPineCone's socks) and I should not have sent good vibes!<br /><br />More seriously, I think I agree to a large extent with Olga, at least as far as the pace/goals blogging goes. It does put a lot of pressure on yourself. That's why I don't do it (oh, and also because I am a wimp)... that, and because I think not posting about it helps reminding myself that I run because it is FUN (ok, painfully fun sometimes, but still, fun). So that's what I am going to wish you for next time: a fun race... no matter the time!<br /><br />Big hug!Mapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02342013052075227227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-74655374362126512322010-05-24T15:03:25.241+02:002010-05-24T15:03:25.241+02:00Nice seeing you in CPH at the Scandic hotel. Don&#...Nice seeing you in CPH at the Scandic hotel. Don't stop aiming for pace achieved targets, simply learn to cope better with the pressure. Pressure afterall is the expectations you put on yourself, even elite athletes have to deal with pre-race nerves. You are not the first and will certainly not be the last. One thing you have is the experience of this ordeal and now you can look forward. <br />Keep believing, have a different approach and work from there.<br />Good Luck for the future and do drop me an email for some assistance if you want.<br />From the tall one from outside the hotel with Colleen and co. (ask Jackie for reference)Gavinhttp://www.time-to-run.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-46308281874961344402010-05-24T12:35:27.992+02:002010-05-24T12:35:27.992+02:00Hej Tracy.
Øv, det er trist at læse, at du måtte ...Hej Tracy.<br /><br />Øv, det er trist at læse, at du måtte udgå igår. Jeg synes jo, at du er en vanvittig sej kvinde, men May-Britt har ret i, at du lægger for stort pres på dig selv. Det var et hårdt løb - med alt for mange brosten og lidt for langt mellem depoterne (her kunne man lære noget af Albertslund) - men jeg synes det var en fed oplevelse, dog savnede jeg dig i mål ... men nu forstår jeg jo hvorfor.<br /><br />Op på hesten igen (som vi si'r i DK)- det kommer masser, masser, masser af andre løb. Og vi ses om to uger i Holte. Bli'r så skægt.<br /><br />God dag og TILLYKKE til Rasmus med en fantastisk flot tid. Han burde være meget, meget stolt af sig selv.<br /><br />HenrietteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-46987343089166138642010-05-24T10:57:26.287+02:002010-05-24T10:57:26.287+02:00I wish I could offer you some more advice, but I t...I wish I could offer you some more advice, but I think the other comments have that part cornered. Just wanted to say that I'm so sorry you had such a disappointing day. I still can't believe you ran so far feeling the way you did! <br />Even if you're feeling down about this particular race now, it sounds like you have some great races in the near future to look forward to.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14137207492303218465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-69141836576630783942010-05-24T09:03:33.345+02:002010-05-24T09:03:33.345+02:00I totally agree with Olga. You put way to much pre...I totally agree with Olga. You put way to much pressure on yourself by making statements about finishing times that will satisfy you, and (unfortunately) we backed you up :-(<br /><br />There´s only one thing to do: when the disappointment is gone in a couple of days, do you self the favour and sit down and think it all through. The time before the race and the race. So it was a lousy race but something good can come out of it, if you learn from it. That includes your decision on going on despite feeling sick and serverely dehydrated.<br /><br />On with the shoes towards new goals! Better luck next time :-)May-Britt Hansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04896516144951556123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-83884581537613184892010-05-24T08:23:22.932+02:002010-05-24T08:23:22.932+02:00Hellen, I just wrote a strangely similar comment o...Hellen, I just wrote a strangely similar comment on your blog at the same moment :). <br /><br />Piccola, I think it was wearing the socks you sent that did me in, now that I consider everything.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-78226958219147879512010-05-24T08:15:47.712+02:002010-05-24T08:15:47.712+02:00most important, i am sorry you did not have the ra...most important, i am sorry you did not have the race experience and outcome you were seeking. i'm glad you understand exactly what went wrong but it is disapointing nonetheless. On the other hand your ratio of great races to disapointing races this year has been pretty stellar.<br />I think that in a perfect world, the concept of training towards a goal race is the ideal way to optimize performance as it allows training, tapering etc. to be designed in a perfect way for a given race on a given day. In the real world, of course, there are nerves and the psychology of the athlete and some athletes will not react well to racing goal races. And yes, it comes with experience to a certain extent. So if goal racing is not for you (at least not now) then trust your instincts and continue to do what you have been doing... you're producing awfully good results in your "non-goal" races.<br />Finally I really hope my prediction contest did not add to your stress & anxiety and if it did I am hugely sorry.<br />Big hug!PiccolaPineConehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09520539255908849462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-4379442940784134422010-05-24T08:09:59.915+02:002010-05-24T08:09:59.915+02:00Tracy, I too messed this marathon up. My asthma wa...Tracy, I too messed this marathon up. My asthma wasn't in control before the race. The first half and a bit went fine, but them I started coughing, and it led to an attack. My lungs just closed in, and after 29 km, I walked slowly back to start (but that was quite a long way)<br />I saw you coming back from Vesterbro, and you looked really tired.<br />See you in Holte. And we will have a great time there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-61848076860369930272010-05-24T07:27:58.573+02:002010-05-24T07:27:58.573+02:00Thanks everyone. And yes, Olga did nail it. Not on...Thanks everyone. And yes, Olga did nail it. Not only am I not elite, I am still a novice. The best evidence of this is I went out at a pace to set a 12 minute PR without any real evidence that I could do it. <br /><br />From now on marathons will be more about listening to myself and less proving something. It is the only way.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-20161681369119796402010-05-24T05:32:55.382+02:002010-05-24T05:32:55.382+02:00wow Olga nailed it. That is the entire reason I de...wow Olga nailed it. That is the entire reason I decided to take a year off 'racing' triathlon and do ultra running. I was putting so much pressure on myself to get certain results that I would make myself sick! It was no longer fun.<br />It is no accident that your 'pr' times come during longer distance runs when the pressure to achieve those prs isn't at the forefront.Amber Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02495066839937055346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-85146985670166476552010-05-24T01:57:43.700+02:002010-05-24T01:57:43.700+02:00Chalk that one up to a learning experience. Its a...Chalk that one up to a learning experience. Its all you can do - learn from it. I did the same thing during a half marathon and never forgot the mental and physical anguish... and I never want to go back to feeling like that again. It can only get better from here!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-7083340075883694202010-05-24T01:15:10.324+02:002010-05-24T01:15:10.324+02:00I am going to be blunt, because that is me. You ar...I am going to be blunt, because that is me. You are not an elite runner. You should not wrap yourself into "I want to do this time, or else". It's ok to shoot for the time. It's not healthy to put so much at stake for the sake of this time, that it's the only thing that occupies your mind, to the point you vomit and poop like crazy. It is also called "self-sabotage". You were so afraid to not live up to your own expectations (because, frankly, nobody else would be disappointed), that sub-conciously your body gave a reaction to provide a perfect excuse.<br />Now, to the rest of the comment, or nicer me. It's ok to DNF, when you're sick or injured. You were sick. Could you have finished in 4 hrs after taking time to walk and re-hydrate? You betcha. Did you need to? Hell, no. There certainly will be other races. I just hope you learn from this one what not to do, rather than focus on what speed you should be going out. Because that is secondary to taking care of your body, one that carries you through.<br />Take a deep breath. May be a vacation from blogging about paces and intervals. By next marathon you'll be in perfect shape to go slightly sub-3:20.<br />BTW, this is why I don't like to call things "goal races".Olgahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493291972954387932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-18986092713073708442010-05-24T01:08:08.573+02:002010-05-24T01:08:08.573+02:00I must say that I am impressed with 16 miles under...I must say that I am impressed with 16 miles under those conditions. So sorry it turned out this way for you. Have you looked into some kind of homeopathic remedy for tension and stress? <br />Glad you can just keep going with training though :) <br />Hang in there and cheers from BAB!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169460908351248051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-88587936213259931002010-05-24T00:28:06.239+02:002010-05-24T00:28:06.239+02:00Pretty hard core! Running 16 FAST miles in such c...Pretty hard core! Running 16 FAST miles in such conditions! Awesome training run for upcoming races:) <br />I did not go to sleep and instead waited for this report, because I was too curious to learn what happened when I could not find you in race results.mmmonykahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09703551248084847150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-44001298968665408142010-05-23T23:34:41.422+02:002010-05-23T23:34:41.422+02:00Considering your stomach problems no wonder you we...Considering your stomach problems no wonder you were dehydrated and felt weak. It is amazing you were able to run 16mi. <br />Hope there is something you can do to calm you pre-race jitters. <br />Big, big hugs.Ewahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17005438284707424779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-62845130270898060522010-05-23T23:16:48.823+02:002010-05-23T23:16:48.823+02:00That sounds awful. Good thing there will be other...That sounds awful. Good thing there will be other races :-)Dannihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02201053516148787578noreply@blogger.com