tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post9010366596251309080..comments2024-02-06T08:43:35.333+01:00Comments on Sea Legs Girl: This pregnancy is not going to be about proving somethingsea legs girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-8930438142390316552010-08-24T16:35:56.909+02:002010-08-24T16:35:56.909+02:00SLG--as someone who struggled to get pregnant and ...SLG--as someone who struggled to get pregnant and would do anything to have a baby, your comments are abrasive. You seem to take pregnancy for granted. And, I guess, since you have not had the pain of infertility you can't know what a blessing it is and how there are those of us that would do anything to have a baby and would give up anything to have that baby. To me, you seem like a very selfish person who puts vanity above the potential health of a child. It seems staying "skinny" and running high mileage is more important to you than taking care of your child. I think it is fine to run through your pregnancy and be active; I ran through my first pregnancy. But, running 13 miles a day plus biking, swimming, and dieting is not healthy. Do a search on pregorexia and you may find a description of your tendencies. I can't believe you and your husband are both physicians and so blatantly suffering from confirmation bias in your thoughts on exercise during pregnancy. Perhaps your recent miscarriage will make you think twice about the value of life and appreciate that some things are more important than your vanity. And, make your husband consider whether a woman that is willing to take risks with the health of her child to maintain a workout regimen and limited weight gain is worthy enough to be a mother. You may have gotten lucky once, but I believe your luck has run out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-78919179262723217822010-07-19T11:09:20.749+02:002010-07-19T11:09:20.749+02:00Thanks, Layna for sharing your experience. You run...Thanks, Layna for sharing your experience. You running an ultra in the third trimester may be fun after all. There was a legedary woman in the midwest who ran either a 50 k or 50 miler months pregnant. Everyone was a little scared, but mostly in awe. <br /><br />Wendy, welcome and thanks for the info on Joy and Carla. I was not aware of them.<br /><br />Mary, I also think it is HARD to do a good study with pregnant exercisers because they are just healthier to begin with AND it's unethical to force woman who don't exercise to start. So yeah, a lot of what we do we have to just trust ourselves and our doctors and most of the time it works out well and the times it doesn't, it's not because we exercised!sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-55768029296930142672010-07-19T00:27:00.482+02:002010-07-19T00:27:00.482+02:00Wow, I can't believe people could be so rude. ...Wow, I can't believe people could be so rude. The sad fact is that medical science hasn't studied women in sports nearly enough, and pregnant women in sports hardly at all. Until the medical establishment cares enough to study women in sports, our best bet is to do exactly what you are doing. Find a good doctor, do what feels right, and remain observant. The other big thing is that it isn't anyone else's business! Your body, your baby, your life. Good luck on the training! If you want some perspectives on pregnancy that respect your choices, I highly recommend the following books. <br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Mother-Wears-Combat-Boots-Parenting/dp/1904859720<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Runners-World-Guide-Running-Pregnancy/dp/1579547478/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279491859&sr=1-1<br /><br />Cheers! Thanks for being an inspiration :-)Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11852985414555916579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-52888715661051369522010-07-17T03:17:46.359+02:002010-07-17T03:17:46.359+02:00SLG- Just found your great blog.
Are you familiar...SLG- Just found your great blog.<br /><br />Are you familiar with the super soccer moms: Joy Fawcett and Carla Overbck- both USWNT captains?<br /><br />Long before you had The Lorax, Joy gave birth to daughter no. 1 in 1994 and trained fully through 9 months. She was back on the pitch 3 weeks later.<br /><br />Repeat similiarly for daughter no. 3-- with a bit more time off for daughter no. 2. <br /><br />Overbeck lifted (squats) the day her water broke with son (1st of 2 kiddos).<br /><br />Listen to your body and good luck! You'll do wonderfully!A World of Gratitudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17934407305300155572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-30386993619353049342010-07-16T21:00:24.738+02:002010-07-16T21:00:24.738+02:00SLG, I'm late to the blog so, first, congrats ...SLG, I'm late to the blog so, first, congrats on the pregnancy!<br /><br />I also found your blog during my first pregnancy, when my OB was fairly supportive of my running (30 or 40 mpw and a half marathon at 32 weeks; I ran until the day before I delivered). I found that running helped keep me sane through pregnancy (and after), and I was lucky not to have much in the way of joint pain (although I had some during the third trimester). And I also found that, first trimester, running helped to keep my nausea at bay and/or my appetite up.<br /><br />But I did get lots of comments from folks, including the guys w/ whom I run, about whether or not it was ok to run (and to run on trails, which I stopped doing third trimester) through pregnancy. They weren't necessarily telling me I shouldn't, but there's almost no research on pregnancy and exercise, so I think folks tend to assume it's dangerous unless proven otherwise. Incredibly frustrating, of course!<br /><br />When I got pregnant a second time, I was running about 50mpw, and I just decided to keep with it. I ran the NYC marathon at 26 weeks, with the blessing of my OB. And it was great -- although I probably didn't look quite pregnant enough (people seemed to wonder what the "26 miles at 26 weeks" on my shirt was supposed to mean). It certainly wasn't my fastest time, but I came in under BQ time, which was sort of fun.<br /><br />It certainly was easier the second time around, b/c I was less worried that I'd screw something up (thereby proving the naysayers right) and also b/c my running friends (and husband) were less worried, b/c I had run through pregnancy just fine the first time. I loved that my OB would bring med students by to my checkups, to demonstrate to them that there was absolutely no reason why a fit woman (my only risk factor was being 37 years old) shouldn't keep running throughout pregnancy. <br /><br />I joked to my husband the other day that I'd better not get pregnant again, lest I have to do an ultra in my 3rd trimester to demonstrate my toughness. Ha ha (and good luck at your 50M!)<br /><br />LaynaLaynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14063892865743850266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-47596379265039073332010-07-16T16:12:08.393+02:002010-07-16T16:12:08.393+02:00Thanks, Danielle! I am glad you took the time to w...Thanks, Danielle! I am glad you took the time to write and I agree wholeheartedly that our society, more so the American one than the Scandinavian one, is behind the medical community in the sense that women who exercise pregnant are criticized to such an extent. But misconceptions are disappearing, thankfully. Best wishes for a wonderful pregnancy!!sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-71189238368911404902010-07-16T15:30:15.301+02:002010-07-16T15:30:15.301+02:00Well said, Danielle! I couldn't agree more.Well said, Danielle! I couldn't agree more.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06788427454417876392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-90606952127509760402010-07-16T14:21:53.306+02:002010-07-16T14:21:53.306+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.DANIELLEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12356587943043764650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-4585820869027153042010-07-16T14:21:21.573+02:002010-07-16T14:21:21.573+02:00I'm pregnant, too, and thankfully found your b...I'm pregnant, too, and thankfully found your blog when I was trying to find info on running and pregnancy. You are not alone SLG. I've even had a family member tell me I would have to stop running when I would have children just due to being a mother. Can you believe that backwards, misogynist nonsense? <br /><br />The pregnancy police just live to make us pregos hysterical and now they even spread the ridiculous notion that stress can "kill your baby." My god. Thank goodness most of us pregos have *actual doctors*, for example, mine who said I could keep doing the same physical activities I did before getting pregnant as long as I didn't get dehydrated or overheated. She also said unusual pain or light-headedness = immediate break and rest. Well, anyone who runs consistently for years knows the difference between normal pain and bad pain. lol <br /><br />Another point to consider: The fact that so many US women can't conceive because they are obese or morbidly obese (61% of Americans are overweight or obese). There are obvious negative fertility consequences associated with the couch potato lifestyle, the list of which is infertility and I would be surprised if higher rates of miscarriage correlate with obesity, as well. Why are these women so concerned about the status of *your fetus* when they themselves are so incredibly unhealthy, so much so that they are functionally infertile? Unfortunately, other people want to affirm their life choices and I would bet that many of those critics are obese or overweight and have other serious health problems (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, which is an unbelievably devastating and underestimated and highly preventable disease). I'm just saying this to encourage you to consider the source of the criticisms. <br /><br />Thin =/= healthy or fit, either, so don't think I'm just hating on obese women. I've been overweight. I know what it's like.<br /><br />It's just that lots of people couch their hatred for female independence in "concern" but it is really just hatred and desire to be right, look good and arrogantly think that they are being heroes and saving women and fetuses from those independent women. This explains the tone and vitriol. It isn't about the baby. It's about a lot of other things, but it isn't about your baby. If they wanted to be heroes, then why don't they get off the couch and practice saving themselves? Pregnant women are easy targets, as demonstrated by the many other hateful, vitriolic, and incredibly ignorant demands and restrictions complete strangers impose on pregos.<br /><br />By the way, you might be interested in a decent book specifically about running during pregnancy. It's called "Runner's World Guide to Running and Pregnancy" by Chris Lundgren.DANIELLEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12356587943043764650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-52544187946592597092010-07-16T14:20:57.238+02:002010-07-16T14:20:57.238+02:00I'm pregnant, too, and thankfully found your b...I'm pregnant, too, and thankfully found your blog when I was trying to find info on running and pregnancy. You are not alone SLG. I've even had a family member tell me I would have to stop running when I would have children just due to being a mother. Can you believe that backwards, misogynist nonsense? <br /><br />The pregnancy police just live to make us pregos hysterical and now they even spread the ridiculous notion that stress can "kill your baby." My god. Thank goodness most of us pregos have *actual doctors*, for example, mine who said I could keep doing the same physical activities I did before getting pregnant as long as I didn't get dehydrated or overheated. She also said unusual pain or light-headedness = immediate break and rest. Well, anyone who runs consistently for years knows the difference between normal pain and bad pain. lol <br /><br />Another point to consider: The fact that so many US women can't conceive because they are obese or morbidly obese (61% of Americans are overweight or obese). There are obvious negative fertility consequences associated with the couch potato lifestyle, the list of which is infertility and I would be surprised if higher rates of miscarriage correlate with obesity, as well. Why are these women so concerned about the status of *your fetus* when they themselves are so incredibly unhealthy, so much so that they are functionally infertile? Unfortunately, other people want to affirm their life choices and I would bet that many of those critics are obese or overweight and have other serious health problems (high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, which is an unbelievably devastating and underestimated and highly preventable disease). I'm just saying this to encourage you to consider the source of the criticisms. <br /><br />Thin =/= healthy or fit, either, so don't think I'm just hating on obese women. I've been overweight. I know what it's like.<br /><br />It's just that lots of people couch their hatred for female independence in "concern" but it is really just hatred and desire to be right, look good and arrogantly think that they are being heroes and saving women and fetuses from those independent women. This explains the tone and vitriol. It isn't about the baby. It's about a lot of other things, but it isn't about your baby. If they wanted to be heroes, then why don't they get off the couch and practice saving themselves? Pregnant women are easy targets, as demonstrated by the many other hateful, vitriolic, and incredibly ignorant demands and restrictions complete strangers impose on pregos.<br /><br />By the way, you might be interested in a decent book specifically about running during pregnancy. It's called "Runner's World Guide to Running and Pregnancy" by Chris Lundgren.DANIELLEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12356587943043764650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-84055851752555312732010-07-16T04:40:09.864+02:002010-07-16T04:40:09.864+02:00Yeah, love for Andy Schleck and running:)
I am rea...Yeah, love for Andy Schleck and running:)<br />I am really excited for you and can't wait reading all about your "new" adventure and your training.mmmonykahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09703551248084847150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-17340335420163464872010-07-15T23:02:19.641+02:002010-07-15T23:02:19.641+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06788427454417876392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-19830235343353072502010-07-15T22:52:18.523+02:002010-07-15T22:52:18.523+02:00AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME and congratulations! I am ...AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME and congratulations! I am soooooo happy for you and SR!<br /><br />Of course, you know I followed your first pregnancy and was inspired to run all the way to week 36 of mine! The attitudes about running and pregnancy have really changed in the last couple of years. All those evil nasty people can go scratch. They were wrong, they were mean, and they were catty, and they were al lot of other adjectives, which I am sure you can think of quite easily. <br /><br />YOU GO GIRL! Bet you are faster yet after baby #2.<br /><br />LisaLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06788427454417876392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-85785434973954545152010-07-15T21:20:54.439+02:002010-07-15T21:20:54.439+02:00The dangers to me of riding a bike at 8 months are...The dangers to me of riding a bike at 8 months are rather obvious. I'm not talking about taking it easy in the neighborhood. I'm taking about riding amongst traffic at speeds in excess of 20mph. One fall at that speed could spell disaster. Not to say that it is going to happen or that the chances of a fall happening being more than negligible, but it is still a risk that, in my opinion, is not worth taking at that point in the pregnancy.this bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12631459027689598765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-84904296702538547262010-07-15T21:08:27.960+02:002010-07-15T21:08:27.960+02:00Hey Adamneh,
I'm glad you wrote, because I wa...Hey Adamneh,<br /><br />I'm glad you wrote, because I was curious what was so dangerous and silly about riding a bike 8 months pregnant. I did nearly every day! Okay granted it was spinning at 8 months because there was so much snow and ice on the roads, but I rode outdoors at least through 6 months. <br /><br /> I don't think I took your quote out of context. It is hard to take the statement that riding a bike 8 months pregnant is silly because of the dangers out of context. And that you didn't think the women in AZ should do it when pregnant.<br /><br />But if it is what you believe, there shouldn't be a problem with the fact that your profile name stays.<br /><br />Forums (even the private, members-only ones, which I joined to see all the idiotic things written about me) do not exist in bubbles. If it is on the internet, I can quote it on my blog.<br /><br />I really thank you for the well wishes with my pregnancy and don't mean to single you out, but need to make a point here.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-92064884336754596952010-07-15T20:28:05.760+02:002010-07-15T20:28:05.760+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-59341221470879105762010-07-15T20:16:26.142+02:002010-07-15T20:16:26.142+02:00Hey Julia,
Yeah, the exercise issue is easier to ...Hey Julia,<br /><br />Yeah, the exercise issue is easier to discuss because I am convinced that was healthy. But evidence is not clear on weight gain. I have discussed it ad nauseum before and don't really feel like getting into it and that's why I didn't. Suffice it to say, I hope to have the same weight gain with this pregancy since the first went well and The Lorax was healthy. <br /><br />Thansk for your thoughts!sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-16212674812874075712010-07-15T20:12:22.812+02:002010-07-15T20:12:22.812+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.sea legs girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782712411873234071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-30063010635991103992010-07-15T19:05:23.214+02:002010-07-15T19:05:23.214+02:00Someone pointed this blog out to me. I've hear...Someone pointed this blog out to me. I've heard about it but never read an entry until now since you used a comment by me. For the record, the post you cut and pasted into your blog was the only post I made in that thread. It was a reply to someone else. It was not a judgment on you or anyone except the person I made the comment about. I feel that you putting my comment in your blog in the manner you chose takes my comment complete out of the context in which it was originally made. I would like it removed if possible.<br /><br />Good luck with your pregnancy.<br /><br />-adamnehthis bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12631459027689598765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-58890297411554412052010-07-15T19:04:15.872+02:002010-07-15T19:04:15.872+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.this bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12631459027689598765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-64215762069408525412010-07-15T04:52:29.795+02:002010-07-15T04:52:29.795+02:00I'm so excited for you! You're right, thi...I'm so excited for you! You're right, this pregnancy isn't about proving anything to anyone. It's exactly about what you said, doing as much as you can for as long as you feel comfortable. The human body is a wonderful thing, if we weren't supposed to be active during pregnancy then perhaps we would have evolved into something that has temporary paralysis during those nine months.Carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09976389058728812269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-20923025431486321012010-07-15T00:02:43.628+02:002010-07-15T00:02:43.628+02:00Congrats on your pregnancy. I compromised with my...Congrats on your pregnancy. I compromised with my doc when pregnant and did no run over 6 miles...I think she would have fired me as a patient if I didn't compromise somehow. I did a lot of yoga and bike trainer riding, and now that I have a 5 month old, I am running faster and with less aches and pains then I did pre-pregnancy. As much as it pained me to watch my friends compete in marathons and ultras while I just got slower and fatter, I think a year of not running 20 milers every weekend did me good. But, I do agree to just go with how you feel. I would just remind myself that while it seems long at the time, a pregnancy is really just a blip in your lifetime, and I know I have a lot of years to continue with my running goals. Best wishes to you and your family...cleahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834964537073041686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-4085398883102915742010-07-14T23:49:51.592+02:002010-07-14T23:49:51.592+02:00Don't be discouraged Sea legs girl! Not havin...Don't be discouraged Sea legs girl! Not having had children, being a medical doctor, or knowing your physical history, I would not feel comfortable giving you an exercise prescription. And if I were you, I would only take the advice of someone like me with a grain of salt.<br /> <br />That said, I think you're a great inspiration and I really hope you keep up whatever exercise works for you. I would expect that for a reasonable person like you, keeping yourself healthy is the best way to produce a healthy child. <br /><br />I like your coach's advice. I assume that as your stomach grows, some movements might become limited or you feel winded faster. No one else knows what feels bad or how much energy you have, so trust yourself and your doctor. I'm sure you've done enough workouts to know what is just a good, tough workout and what is dehydration or exhaustion or muscle failure that makes you dizzy or overworked.<br /><br />By the way, there are lots of great crossfit pregnancy videos and pregnancy modifications.<br /><br />Those kids are adorable.Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125722284842531195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-28314418624784544302010-07-14T23:37:16.330+02:002010-07-14T23:37:16.330+02:00I agree with FB. Exercise, whether you're pre...I agree with FB. Exercise, whether you're pregnant or a cancer patient, helps quality of life immensely. It helps keep strength as well as boosting mood on a daily basis. <br /><br />I don't have experience with the pregnancy side of it all yet, but I was diagnosed with cancer nearly six years ago and it was treated aggressively for 11 months with chemo, radiation, and surgery. It was the most terrible year of my life. I ran the first two months, weekly distance of 10 mi at 12:00/mi pace (pre-cancer was 25mi and 10:00/mi pace). Then I had to switch to walking and (sometimes)rollerblading, which I continued daily, some days with my evil IV pole through the halls of the hospital, through month 10. On days that I didn't exercise at all, I felt sluggish and had a sour outlook on life. I went as far and as long as I felt like I could, and just didn't go on days I didn't feel up to it.<br /><br />Since you are already exercising at such a high level, reducing your exercise to what "typical" people think is right just doesn't make sense. If you feel like it, then why the heck not? If you collapse or feel dizzy, well duh!, you're going to call it a day. Who wouldn't? I wish more people would just trust that you know your body better than anyone else. Only you know when you've gone too far.<br /><br />Congrats on the pregnancy! I'm excited to hear how it works with your training plans. Hubby and I are toying with the idea of a family ourselves and I'm curious to see how you juggle it all :)Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212228308225991239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834846832861622672.post-39553167091664323402010-07-14T23:13:33.779+02:002010-07-14T23:13:33.779+02:00Nah, I wouldn't get mad at being mentioned. I...Nah, I wouldn't get mad at being mentioned. I have a tendency towards setting myself up for attack so I can't blame you :P. But you're welcome to delete my Runango forum name on here, esp. since I don't even USE that name anymore on there.Allison Chapplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345469985528298687noreply@blogger.com